Regression to something (Introduction)

by David Turell , Sunday, September 04, 2011, 22:44 (4829 days ago) @ dhw

Alan Guth cannot be ignored. He claims that this universe is 'something from nothing'. He explains that if one adds up all the forms of energy, positive and negative in our universe, the total answer one reaches is zero!-Alan Guth is one of the leading theoretical cosmologists in the world. He invented the inflation theory.
 
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> I am, I must confess, completely bewildered by your equation: all positive + all negative forms of energy = 0, therefore the Big Bang was a creation. Presumably all those non-believing professional physicists and cosmologists don't understand it either. -Note the comment about Guth above. Most of his compatriots in cosmology agree with him.
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> I'm not sure why you call both the UI and my fence "pure" energy (I wouldn't dare apply the epithet to my rump). "All matter is really energy in different forms." OK, then, let's agree that energy "has existed forever into the past". That doesn't make it a conscious intelligence. Your philosophy prof at least seems to have distinguished between these DIFFERENT forms of energy, but once we accept the distinction between mind and matter, we go straight back to square one. Did energy in the form of matter precede energy in the form of mind, or vice versa? Round and round we go...That's philosophy for you.-The first verses of Genesis follow the Big Bang. "1:3 is the opening act of the story of creation". (In the Beginning Of, by Judah Landa,2004) "Let there be light". Light is energy. At first there is always energy. Energy can stay as energy or can become any form of matter. Matter is made up of various particles of energy. An atom is made up of smaller particles of energy down to quarks and force fields mediated by particles. I don't think you undertand this. My philosophy prof was only stating fact. Energy is energy. It is a zoo of particles in various families, positively charged, negative, or with no charge. Matter is on the outside and energy particles are on the inside, is another way of putting it. Of course, he was defining 'mind' as pure energy, as it is. Yes, energy goes all the way back, and has always existed, either as my UI or as a potential set of quanta as the way the space in our universe is formed, a false vacuum (Stenger).-Your rump is energy, how energetic is for you to say. That picket fence is energy. Finally, energy may change but always exists. The total of all energy in this universe is constant. It can be neither created or destroyed. Guth is allowed to use his formula. So finally my statements are not confusing: Either a UI (energy) made the Big Bang and created this universe out of energy, or a false vacuum of space has always existed and a quantum perturbation went poof and our universe appeared. We MUST be part of something eternal.