Kent Hovind vs. a Molecular Biologist (The limitations of science)
TONY: Only a fool believes that there is never a cause for righteous indignation, a personal affront so severe as to warrant violence. If someone came in and murdered your family, would you stand by and uncaringly do nothing, or would you be moved by righteous anger to action in defense of their lives? > > > > If you truly adhere to Christ or Buddhism, the very point of altruism demands that you do NOT answer an eye for an eye. The separation of man and animal according to Christianity is that man receives God's love and redemption; if you truly wish to be devotional, you must adhere to the higher ideal of love and self-sacrifice. That's what it means to love God first, and before everything else. > First, I have not once stated that I am a Christian or a Buddhist. I was raised in a Christian family, and in a predominantly Christian society, but that is not the same thing. I study religion, all religion, all faiths and philosophies, so that I can gain a better understanding because I believe that they all fundamentally teach the same things, and that there is something that can be learned from all of them. -For the Christian, though, their God, the one they admire and attempt to be like, shows numerous examples of the righteous indignation that warranted violence. (Notice how many folks got the crap kicked out of them for messing with God's children...)-I actually have one disagreement with the Buddhist, so I am glad this came up. The fact that a Buddhist refuses to fight for the protection of life, even the life of another, could be seen as indifference to it, not appreciation of it. One thing about the Abrahamic religions and Hinduism that I really appreciate is that they recognize this. This is also the point I was trying to make in my earlier statement. Self-sacrifice, in the sense of Christ or someone giving up their life for someone else, is difference. It means you love someone so completely that you view their well being and happiness as intrinsic to your own, and place great value upon it, in fact, you value it more than your own life. This is far and away different than refusing violence.
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