Kent Hovind vs. a Molecular Biologist (The limitations of science)
TONY: The utility of a creator...[is] to help focus your thoughts into a profitable and productive action instead of wasting it chasing misguided ideals. Just my two cents at any rate. > > Elsewhere you quite rightly in my view criticize the arrogant assumptions of the non-religious and of some evolutionists, but I'm afraid I kick equally hard against the arrogant assumptions of those religious people who think no-one else is capable of profitable, productive action, and anyone who does not share their religious faith is chasing misguided ideals. Who sets the criteria for profitability, productiveness and proper guidance? The fundamentalist imam, the inquisitor, the child-abusing priest, the cult leader, the Pope? No-one has direct, authoritative access to the creator, and belief in such a being has led and still leads to misery and oppression (as well as to comfort and philanthropy). However, my grouse is absolutely NOT directed at you personally ... you wouldn't have stayed with this forum if you had been that sort of person. I just hope you will accept that you have wielded a double-edged sword. Now I've had my two cents' worth! > -I do not think that I, or even implied, that those without religious views or who share views other than my own are incapable of profitable or productive action. What I said, specifically, was to "help focus your thoughts" in that direction. Some need more help than others. -If you get away from the religious organizations, and focus mainly on the core teachings of the major world religions, they are all designed to teach moderation, self-restraint, discipline, compassion, and wisdom. That does not mean to imply that they do not contain their fair share of brutality, but even that serves the purpose of teaching that even our destructive nature has a purpose, and should not be shut away and punished like the bad kid at school. -If we judge faith by those that lay claim to it, then should we judge all humans by the relatively few sociopaths that lay claim to being human?
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2011-07-03, 16:42
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