Feeling Reality (General)
I'm not coming back. And this is the reason. dhw hasn't moved on from his initial position. He still states the same old same old: > > "it continues to baffle me that anyone can truly grasp the immensity of all these different wonders, and yet still gloss them over with language and place his faith in chance to produce them."- George: I think, we all who persist here, would love to have you back full time. But at least you are lurking around and popping up now and then. I'm in the same position as you even though we are on opposite ends of the spectrum of thought. I can't move dhw either, although I feel he now agrees more with me than with you. > To describe evolution by the processes of natural selection as being the same as the appearance of things "by chance" is just misrepresenting the case. Perhaps the phrase "by chance and law" or "by chance and inevitability" would express the case better. To set off an avalanche may only take a small amount of chance, the rest of the process follows by the law of gravity.-I don't buy your analogy of the avalanche at all, but I know you would expect me to say that. The new discoveries in epigenetics and other discoveries in genetic adaptations that do not require de novo mutations require another invention of another neo-Darwinism to get everything to fit.The genome is not passive and seems very Lemarkian to me. Natural Selection is an important final filter for what characteristics are presented to it, but is really passive in starting any adaptation process, and becomes active only to solidify the end result. Tell me, do you believe evolution created all of these complex layers of genomic control of adaptation?
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dhw,
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David Turell,
2011-02-12, 17:25
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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2011-03-16, 00:35
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2011-02-13, 23:34
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2011-02-16, 21:26
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2011-02-16, 22:24
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xeno6696,
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BBella,
2011-02-18, 22:58
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BBella,
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xeno6696,
2011-02-17, 16:43
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
2011-02-17, 11:37
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David Turell,
2011-02-17, 05:19
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xeno6696,
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dhw,
2011-02-17, 11:13
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George Jelliss,
2011-02-17, 19:23
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David Turell,
2011-02-18, 01:39
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David Turell,
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David Turell,
2011-02-12, 17:25