beliefs are the root cause of agony (Introduction)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Thursday, February 10, 2011, 02:05 (5015 days ago) @ David Turell

I'm not sure of your point here xeno, are not human beings and societies chaotic systems? 
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> > > I would argue they are.
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> > Formally, the answer to your question is "no." There is no theorem in chaos theory that describes human systems as "chaotic."
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> > Are you arguing within the confines of mathematical chaos theory? 
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> I don't think he is. There are lots of chaotic humans, and as for societies, no question, but certainly not mathematical.-David,-Don't know if you were just jumping in the middle here, but going back a few posts, he was using the language of chaos theory--if he didn't mean to, that's fine, but he seemed to be implying that since humans were "chaotic systems" that they could be somehow described by chaos theory--which describes systems that we call chaotic but are really deterministic. So while the confusion could be me mistaking his words, I wanted to make sure exactly where we were on the topic.

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