Why is there anything at all? (Introduction)

by David Turell , Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 01:58 (6009 days ago) @ George Jelliss


> Incidentally according to relativity the "expansion" of the universe is not supposed to be "within" or "into" anything, it creates its own space and time as it expands. - If this is true, accepting the relativity theory as absolute fact, then there was an explicit beginning in the Big Bang, and that fits the math fact there is no 'before' before the Big Bang as shown mathematically by Guth et al. Logically we think of a space as something that has an inside and an outside. If the universe is expanding like a loaf of raisin bread with all the raisins (Galaxies) spreading apart it is very difficult to imagine the universe does not have an edge. Is it a torus? We know that space is generally 'flat', and therefore most likely to expand forever. Imagining the relativity theory statement is like imagining quanta weirdness. - I also can never buy the multiverse theory, which is unprovable and certainly un-Occam. The philosopher of science, John Leslie, concluded in his book, "Universes", 'much evidence suggests....tht God is real and/or there exist vastly many, very varied universes.' We really are left with 'either/or' and 'and/or'. And mutiverses are out of sight. - George, you and I are left with a universe that appeared suddenly, and perhaps out of nothing, unless we assume there was pre-existing space with potential quanta dancing around. Now we consider that it is expanding into nothing. How do we know there was pre-existing space? Just to fit Stenger? To accept Stenger one is forced to accept multiverse theory. Creation becomes a possibility.