ID explained (Introduction)
DAVID: Cellular intelligence means the cells have knowledge and can plan by thinking.
dhw: It certainly means they have knowledge, but it does not mean they plan in the sense of foreseeing the future. My proposal is that cells RESPOND to requirements.
DAVID: You haven't told us how they know to respond.
dhw: How often do I have to repeat that NOBODY knows how speciation happens, and NOBODY knows the origin of life or intelligence, but your God is one of the three possible first causes mentioned above.
DAVID: Thanks for the sop.
dhw: It is not a sop. One of the three “concocted choices” must be closer to the truth than the other two. I am not anti-God, any more than I am anti-chance or anti-panpsychism.
DAVID: The immerging understanding of the extreme complexity of a single operating cell demands a well-planned design by a designer.
dhw: Back you go to the origin! Our disagreement is over Chapter 2 of life, with your claim that your God’s sole purpose was to design H. sapiens, but he directly designed every life form that ever existed, 99% of which had no connection with humans. […]
DAVID: Each branch of the bush is continuous from the origin. So is the branch to humans. Did we just jump time to where we are? Your approach is so illogical. Evolution evolves, doesn't it?
dhw: Of course each branch is/was continuous from its origin. But you claim that EVERY branch is/was directly designed as part of your God’s goal of evolving humans, whereas 99% of them had no connection with humans. You have no idea why he would have chosen such a method to fulfil such a purpose, and so you continue to play the silly game of leaving out the bits of your theory that make it illogical.
I've left out nothing. I've explained to you the whole bush is very necessary food supply. You are the one who looks disconnectedly at all the interlocking parts of my approach. I've put it all together for you and somehow you only manage to see disconnected parts.
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