Refutation of a Statistical Argument Supporting Coevolution (Origins)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 15:06 (5387 days ago) @ David Turell

David,
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> > Specifically the article is refuting the p of .00015 (ish) that I know you've referenced before. THAT is the weapon it takes away from you. You can no longer use it. 
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> I don't know where or when I used a p value of any magnitude-I remember a number that was 1.5 x 10 ^ -some number which is what made me think of this one. -> > 
> > In either case, my overall point is that we can't trust statistical arguments for systems we don't completely understand.
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> But IF we understand, we can use them. Tell what is not understood.-I've discussed this before--without a mechanism or a pathway leading from nonlife to life, we cannot begin to calculate a p for the process, because kinda like physics, we have a chemistry for organic and biochem, but the distinctions between them belie their specialized scope: organic is simply carbon molecules, and biochem is LIFE chemistry. We have a bridge to neither and even if we were designed, the designer had only these (missing) tools to work with. -The probabilities as I've seen them are based ONLY on what we know now, and the most important key to the puzzle--our Rosetta stone--is finding a path from nonlife to life. If we have an A, and a Z, but can only find A->G, with a bunch of stuff missing with a known W->Z, the best you can do is discuss the results at present, which is we're missing H->V. Adler is very fond of making these types of "snapshot" judgments (such as in Difference), but what I see you doing is making an early judgment. I'll discuss that in the more related thread...

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