Behe on Shapiro: do these systems have a source? (Introduction)

by David Turell , Saturday, March 23, 2019, 13:54 (2073 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Of course they can adapt. My point was the probable pre-planning to help the finches with climate changes. The human brain is the result of God's evolutionary method.

dhw: You seem to think that your God preprogrammed or dabbled the beak changes in anticipation of the environmental changes. My proposal is that adaptation takes place in response to environmental changes. I find the latter considerably more “probable” than the former. Your last sentence does not explain why your God found it necessary to fiddle with finches’ beaks if his only purpose was to design the human brain.

DAVID: Same old 'round and 'round. Econiches supply food for evolution until human brains appear, and you know my point and keep beating your tired drum, in which you try go deny a distant connection in the process.

dhw: In your hypothesis human brains don’t “appear”. Your God specially designs them. And here you have your God specially designing changes to finches’ beaks in anticipation of environmental change. You’re right - I can see no connection, but perhaps you can explain to me why your God was unable to specially design the human brain without first specially adapting the beaks of one species of finch.

This is a gross distortion of the probabilities of my views. We do not know, in any measure of fact, that God could not design the human brain until He worked with finches. I state that God choice this method of evolving through evolution. First evolution of all organisms occurs in parallel contemporaneous paths, so the path to humans was somewhere along the way when finches first came on the scene. Secondly, the need for econiches/ecosystems is well-established for food supply. Your comment points out that you seem to see single linear path to the human brain. What happened to the bush of life?