Behe on Darwin: polar bear discussion (Introduction)
dhw: I’m afraid this is way over my head. When reading such articles, I can only absorb the conclusions. I note your confirmation bias in favour of Behe, but for me the next step would be to listen to Lenski’s reply.
DAVID: I certainly understand your position. In his book I've now read about how bacteria move by automatically making many membrane molecular motors other than flagella, like tiny feet, like tank treads and using slime, depending on the bacteria species.
dhw: Thank you for understanding my position. As you love to dwell on the word “automatic”, perhaps I should just point out that all organisms including ourselves move through automatic processes. It will be interesting to see whether Behe believes that bacteria were preprogrammed by your God 3.8 billion years ago to solve all the problems life would throw at them for the rest of time.
I have now read a Behe section on bacteria in glucose lactose culture. The bacteria always automatically eat all the glucose first and the automatically switch to lactose when the glucose is used up. All molecular steps are known. The bacteria have no independent thought to s witch.
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