Behe on Shapiro: do these systems have a source? (Introduction)
DAVID: In a section on Darwin Finches, Behe notes the finding that two mutations over a million years old allow finches to change beak size and shape when the environmental changes cause edible seed changes. Finches had to fly to the Galapagos. Did they come prepared for the changes? Or develop them after arrival? Not clear.
dhw: I wonder why your God would want to dabble beforehand with finches’ beaks so they could eat the changed Galapagos seeds, when his one and only purpose was apparently to design the brain of H. sapiens. May I humbly suggest that when the environment changes, organisms must adapt or die.
DAVID: Of course they can adapt. My point was the probable pre-planning to help the finches with climate changes. The human brain is the result of God's evolutionary method.
dhw: You seem to think that your God preprogrammed or dabbled the beak changes in anticipation of the environmental changes. My proposal is that adaptation takes place in response to environmental changes. I find the latter considerably more “probable” than the former. Your last sentence does not explain why your God found it necessary to fiddle with finches’ beaks if his only purpose was to design the human brain.
Same old 'round and 'round. Econiches supply food for evolution until human brains appear, and you know my point and keep beating your tired drum, in which you try go deny a distant connection in the process.
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