Science and Grants (Introduction)

by xeno6696 @, Sonoran Desert, Monday, December 21, 2009, 17:32 (5247 days ago) @ David Turell

Alright, humor me. What was the last scientific idea that was debunked due to money? 
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> > > We are going through it right now with the global warming. but more than that,and I only have supposition: the fraud committed with cold fusion. i'm sure it involved grants and tenure. 
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> > Cold fusion was debunked because other scientists couldn't replicate the results; try again.
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> I know, but why did they do it? Tenure, fame, money? 
> -Right, but what my point is, is that disclosing financial information up front serves no good purpose UNTIL something fraudulent happens, and disclosing it up front serves to polarize a reader in advance. Many people I know in academia are biased against researchers who work for "for-profit" institutions; a classic rivalry. Forcing financial disclosure could also cause a chilling effect on contributions--at UNMC where I worked, there are several prominent area families that will only donate anonymously. Same goes for particular causes--people doing stem cell research might find that their funding dries up because people don't want to get death threats from abortion activists. -I think the present system works just fine; only time financials are pertinent is if there really IS fraud. -
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> Read the following review of a book. The system now involves huge amounts of grant money, tightly controlled peer review which can allow for incentuous relationships or even collusion. No, I don't have an exact example, but Google is full of entries under 'science fraud'. Human nature and love of money will obviously produce scoundrels:
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> http://omega.twoday.net/stories/394532/-I will once I get home.

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