Science and Grants (Introduction)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Monday, December 21, 2009, 03:51 (5248 days ago) @ David Turell

David,
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> > > > Bad ideas are always expelled from science by scientists, never once has an idea been debunked due to financial ties. 
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> > > The time is now. Your life's experience is getting in the way. Remember, when there is fraud follow the money.
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> > Alright, humor me. What was the last scientific idea that was debunked due to money? 
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> We are going through it right now with the global warming. but more than that,and I only have supposition: the fraud committed with cold fusion. i'm sure it involved grants and tenure. -Cold fusion was debunked because other scientists couldn't replicate the results; try again. -> > 
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> > > > Though one point you bring up that I think is valid--a journal writing is always a summary of all a person's work. Why isn't there a place to deposit all raw data the scientist produced?
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> > > That's the point. It isn't being done properly.
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> > Well, arguably--it's never been done. Not in the US, not here, not anywhere. Most data that scientists accrue accrues between the ears. Part of the reason for that computational biology project at UNO is to gain access to those biochemical insights that don't get published. I think we might be talking at two related, but different points.
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> I don't think so. Tree ring analysis is numbers. Most results are numbers or EKG's or whatever. My paper with Hellerstein on mode of dying, 1959, had all the EKG's available for anyone to review at our offices.
> > -I'm not referring to the lab notebooks or whatever; completely failed and unpublished articles still produce useful information. One drawback to the present system is that it isn't enough like wikipedia.

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