A new synthesis: Four dimensions of Evolution (Evolution)
dhw: If I am presented with a theory full of holes, of course I want reasons, just as you do when applying your human logic to alternatives.-DAVID: What you see as holes, simply I don't, so we are stuck with the difference.-If there are aspects of a theory you don't understand (such as how divine planning/dabbling works, or why millions of species and lifestyles and wonders are necessary for the production of one species), I would suggest that not seeing holes is the result of closing your eyes! DAVID: I assume, if God is guiding evolution, He knows everything. dhw: Why do you assume that? Haisch thinks God wanted to experience what it was like to live in the universe. So God wouldn't have known that in advance, would he? Some process theologians suggest that God is learning all the time: he is (in) the process of “becoming”. And if he created life as a great experiment, there would not be much point if he knew every result in advance. My hypotheses 2 and 3 allowed for guidance and God NOT knowing everything. DAVID: I cannot deny that thought.-Thank you.-DAVID: Thank you for listening. His point of view represents many famous quantum scientists. Consciousness is the basis of reality, which explains how I developed my idea of a universal consciousness.-dhw: I understand why the idea appeals to you. What a pity the rock I stubbed my toe on didn't share Haisch's belief that consciousness creates reality. In the light of daily experience, for all its subjectivity, I would be reluctant to exclude matter and energy from any description of “the basis of reality”.... Maybe we should confine ourselves to Haisch's wonderfully helpless response to the simplest of questions: ”There is a mystery here.”-DAVID:Yes a great mystery. We don't understand delayed choice experiments except by invoking the primacy of consciousness.-And we don't understand toe-stubbing except by invoking the primacy of matter and energy.
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