The Human Animal (Humans)
To me, free will would have to be *instantaneous.* We perceive it as instant, but it isn't. A delay of 1.0s for the distances the electrical pulse has to travel is akin to being able to freeze light in place. So either thought doesn't actually move at light speed, or there's processing going on that we're unaware of. These unconscious properties are obviously *part of* free will or they wouldn't be invoked in the first place. Free will requires consciousness, if part of free will is unconscious than we only have qualified free will. - I don't know how you define 'free will' at this point of our discussion. My brain is mine. My subconscious, unconscious and consciousness are all mine. There is no other power that can intrude and run my thoughts. I developed my subconscious and unconscious, no other power did. I may believe there is a universal consciousness, but I alone control all levels of my brain. - I decide to start a car. I turn the key, put pressure on the pedal and the engine turns over. It takes a little time. I know there is a gap of 0.2-0.5 seconds when I start an activity. I don't think it is any different and I've now (Google) seen discussions that agree with me. You philosopher guys get all screwed up with too much thinking.
Complete thread:
- The Human Animal -
dhw,
2009-08-06, 14:53
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-06, 15:21
- The Human Animal - David Turell, 2009-08-06, 17:54
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-06, 19:29
- The Human Animal -
John Clinch,
2009-08-07, 12:13
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-07, 14:34
- The Human Animal -
John Clinch,
2009-08-07, 15:53
- The Human Animal - xeno6696, 2009-08-09, 20:14
- The Human Animal -
John Clinch,
2009-08-07, 15:53
- The Human Animal - xeno6696, 2009-08-09, 20:07
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-07, 14:34
- The Human Animal -
dhw,
2009-08-08, 11:11
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-09, 20:22
- The Human Animal -
dhw,
2009-08-10, 08:45
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-10, 13:04
- The Human Animal -
dhw,
2009-08-11, 12:17
- The Human Animal - xeno6696, 2009-08-11, 13:28
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-11, 13:51
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-12, 13:18
- The Human Animal -
dhw,
2009-08-12, 17:00
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-12, 18:34
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-13, 15:05
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-13, 16:08
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-13, 17:02
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-13, 19:38
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-13, 21:21
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-14, 00:14
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-14, 05:18
- The Human Animal - David Turell, 2009-08-14, 17:19
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-14, 05:18
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-14, 00:14
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-13, 21:21
- The Human Animal - David Turell, 2009-08-14, 01:19
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-13, 19:38
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-13, 17:02
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-13, 16:08
- The Human Animal -
dhw,
2009-08-14, 12:17
- The Human Animal - David Turell, 2009-08-15, 01:48
- The Human Animal - xeno6696, 2009-08-23, 06:57
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-13, 15:05
- The Human Animal - xeno6696, 2009-08-13, 00:34
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-12, 18:34
- The Human Animal -
dhw,
2009-08-12, 17:00
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-12, 13:18
- The Human Animal -
dhw,
2009-08-11, 12:17
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-10, 13:04
- The Human Animal -
dhw,
2009-08-10, 08:45
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-09, 20:22
- The Human Animal -
John Clinch,
2009-08-07, 12:13
- The Human Animal -
George Jelliss,
2009-08-29, 16:09
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-29, 16:39
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-30, 16:30
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-30, 19:27
- The Human Animal -
George Jelliss,
2009-08-30, 22:05
- The Human Animal - xeno6696, 2009-08-30, 22:38
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-30, 23:31
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-31, 00:32
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-31, 01:50
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-31, 02:09
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-31, 05:42
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-31, 13:14
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-09-01, 22:05
- The Human Animal - xeno6696, 2009-09-01, 22:36
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-09-01, 22:05
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-31, 13:14
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-31, 05:42
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-31, 02:09
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-31, 01:50
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-31, 00:32
- The Human Animal -
George Jelliss,
2009-08-30, 22:05
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-30, 19:27
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-30, 16:30
- The Human Animal -
xeno6696,
2009-08-29, 16:39
- The Human Animal -
David Turell,
2009-08-06, 15:21