More Denton: Reply to David (Introduction)

by David Turell , Sunday, August 02, 2015, 14:54 (3401 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw: You described God's guided evolution as a simple process, and I showed you just how complex it would have had to be. I don't need to repeat it all, do I?
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> DAVID: For humans the planning would appear to be very complex, but in my view not for God.
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> dhw: Sorry, but when you described God's guided evolution (i.e. a colossal set of computer programmes passed down from the first cells through billions of years to billions of organisms to switch on as and when the time was right, catering for all environments - or alternatively God personally fiddling around with the insides of billions of organisms) as a “simple process”, I thought you were speaking for David Turell and not for God.-In the other thread with answers for Tony I've explained my view of God-guided evolution.
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> dhw: As you stated above, through an “onboard mechanism for planning”, which is the exact opposite of an onboard mechanism for automatically carrying out plans already made 3 billion years earlier. (The location of the mechanism is a separate issue.)
> DAVID: I've always said I don't know if plans for complexity are 3.8 billion years old or devolve from guidelines as issues appear. but I'm convinced the mechanism has to be in DNA.
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> dhw: “Devolve from guidelines as issues appear” (what you used to call God's dabbling) is very different from the “onboard mechanism for planning” you agreed to on Wednesday July 29 as an alternative to your 3.8 billion-year-old programme. I hope these obfuscations are not an attempt to backtrack on our historic agreement.-I've never left my background thought that all of evolution is under God's guidance, which means any inventive mechanism is semi-autonomous.