building AI: never with consciousness (Humans)

by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 00:28 (3471 days ago) @ xeno6696

I agree with Bishop and Penrose. Great computation no free-floating productive thought.:
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> > http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26716-fear-artificial-stupidity-not-artificial-in... > 
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> I guess I'm here to muddy the waters a bit. 
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> Yes, every (non-viral) program can only execute within its narrow confines. 
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> I'll challenge: Same with us. There's never been a real example, in my estimation, of a human being that has quite literally come up with some idea completely from scratch. What do I mean?
> -There is nothing new under the sun.-> If you study the history of religions, we started with animism, and ended up penultimately converging (worldwide) to a mix of pantheism and monotheism. Animism... well we observed nature, and realized we were a part of it--and more importantly, we realized that things happened that we couldn't directly control. So we worshipped the spirits of the trees and animals. There's no great leap here. Even when we leap to the Pythagoreans... their spiritual world was still bound by the limits of human thought: and the same is true today.
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> The history of human thought is a slow evolution of one idea leading into the next, sometimes coming full circle, sometimes finding a new plateau, but never... anything new.
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> How is that any different than a limited computer program? 
> Human thinking is broadened by contact with other people, but we're still limited by all the amassed knowledge that came before us... there is no real *genius* in this world... only a limited creativity based upon what we've managed to stumble across.
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> We are a bumbling species, intellectually.--Human 'creativity' is not really about coming up with anything 'new'. It is about putting what we already know together in new combinations that form a completely unique perspective. Mathematical formulae, paintings, music, speech, language, none of these things are new in and of themselves. However, I will challenge you on one point. We DO create something new. We create new experiences, perspectives, memories.-Now, that may not seem like much. You might say that creating new memories is no special feat, and trying to quantify experiences and perspectives is really hard to pin down. What makes us different is NOT the data computational functions, but our ability to FEEL, to empathize, and dare I say it, to love. One of the interesting things about game design is that even though we traffic in algorithms and data, what we really peddle to the masses is an experience. It is emotional. No computer can emulation emotions. Computers can not feel. Without feeling, their computational capacity will never match a humans, no matter how fast it gets. Feelings allow our creativity beyond preprogrammed patterns. In fact, our brain has a mechanism design to do just that; when you are tired it stops enforcing the logical contraints that it normally operates under and begins making new and unexpected connections.

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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.