causation (Introduction)

by GateKeeper , Saturday, June 14, 2014, 13:01 (3815 days ago) @ dhw

dhw:...All of these contradictions disappear if you remove the philosophical shackles of evolutionary anthropocentrism, or alternatively the decisive know-it-all-from-the-beginning infallibility of your God. And neither of these solutions requires you to be an agnostic or an atheist!
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> DAVID: Thanks for the advice but it doesn't answer the issue of humans appearing against all odds.
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> Dhw: Removing the second set of shackles does. But instead of making your God decisively infallible, as you want him to be, it allows him to learn by experimentation and experience.
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> DAVID: The problem is we do not know God personally. I don't presume to know if he is infallible or had to experiment.
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> This, dear David, is music to my ears. Less than a fortnight ago you were dismissing the idea of experimentation as defining "an indecisive God so it is a nonstarter", while God not thinking of humans till later on in evolution "is less indecisive, but no less a wrong approach, since it makes God dither." Well, you are young (at heart) and impulsive, but when pressed are open-minded and courageous enough to switch from 100% to 50%. You would make a good agnostic.-group hug