causation (Introduction)

by GateKeeper , Friday, June 13, 2014, 16:44 (3816 days ago) @ David Turell


> > > > GK: I say we were not against all odds. In fact at t-minus 10^-43 seconds life was going to happen. That is fairly sound with, or without a god.
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> > > That sounds like a form of faith to me. Can you explain your reasoning?
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> > GK: Yes .I do have faith I think. we all have some faith I believe. I have faith in the periodic table. 
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> > When leptons and quarks formed they were going to follow the set of rules. That soup of particles was going to do what that soup of particle do. They were going to form stars. Big ones. I mean really big ones.
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> > That first generation of starts then seeded the universe with the materials that we see today. "carbon", hydrogen, and oxygen, would have been very abundant. Along with the rest of the 2-4 rows. Given the tempura gradients that were around. The Corbon-water Goldie lock zone was going to be present.
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> To me you are describing the process we discovered and the fact that we live in the Goldylocks zone. We have to live here or we wouldn't be here. Do you think it is all luck? 
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> > GK: What would have been more surprising is if the periodic table didn't act like the periodic table.
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> It is something we discovered. we don't know why it acts that way. Fred Hoyle described the making of carbon in the intense pressure inside stars requiring very exact conditions of resonance,and thought 'somebody monkeyed with the works' to paraphrase him. Did the fine-tuning to allow life just happen?
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> > GK: The surprising "uneven mix" of anti mater/matter? I think it is supervising that they are supervised to tell you the truth. I am not supervise they are as arrogant as they are, but I am surprised they are taking tit to the level they are.
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> You don't think antimatter is rare, compared to matter?
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> > GK: And the scientist to get paid to talk about it.
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> Scientists live on grants. Do you trust them? 
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> > GK: As usual, we can throw probably, for me, and I am not sure of anything, all over this post.
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> But you seem sure life had to appear in the form of humans?
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your right, nobody knows how it works so it is useless for me to base a conclusion on what we don't know. If you noticed I only used what is basically known.-No, I did not say that about anti matter. What I said is that based on how much we don't know it surprises me that scientist think that a math formula that predicts absolute uniformity is the way it should be. It is like assuming type1 supernova explosions start at the exact center of the start. I mean if you look at the temperature and time scales. The probability of absolute uniformity is kind of funny to me. I would assume it wasn't uniform based on what we see around us. thats 100% uniformity. not 99.999999%
 
Scientist? Trust and verify. Trust and verify. Some of the meanest people I know were considered very smart. Boy were they supervised when I showed I up. -no, I am not sure. I am as sure as you and dwh. I lay out what we have. Tats where I start.