causation (Introduction)

by romansh , Tuesday, May 27, 2014, 15:00 (3833 days ago) @ David Turell

http://www.random.org/randomness/
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> The article says we can even be skeptical about randomness, but cause and effect can be determined, and why not?-1) Our models are not accurate enough.
2) The variables we feed into the models are incomplete and not accurate enough.
3) The calculation (determination) of the effect will affect the effect ... Having self referential sets etc.-This is completely in a Newtonian world ... and we can add quatum phenomena into the mix where we are uncertain how to envisage the underlying mechanism (if any).