Stenger\'s Cosmology refuted (Introduction)
ROMANSH: The speculation that there is a before can be result from a deep misunderstanding of the models we have. > > dhw:Once again, since there are various models, none of which has led to any kind of consensus, perhaps the models we have are inadequate, as you have more or less indicated above. > > ROMANSH: Ultimately we can't know, but we can eliminate nonsense. > > dhw:The idea that our universe sprang from energy can hardly be called nonsense, and if something springs from something else, that something else must have preceded it.-My answer is simple, as I have stated. George's zero-energy state (per Guth's hypothesis) is a sum of energies and that is not nothing. It is a mathematical sum, and is something.
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