How math interprets biology and life, and the cosmos (Introduction)
David: I think the legitimate answer is we don't know where prions fit in. I'm glad you are back, and I hope it is for a good length of time. What's happened with your book?-I dug into the final proof of my book for prions: -"Another alternative to early information-bearing proteins, other than RNA, is prions. These are the same type of proteins that cause mad cow disease. Recently, prions have been found to manage changes in wild yeast, changes that are beneficial and helpful especially when the the yeast is under stress. And these changes are inheritable.-Quoted study: Prions were first found to produce heritable new traits more than a decade ago in laboratory studies of simple baker's yeast. The key discovery then was that some proteins could spontaneously switch from a normal shape into a self-perpetuating prion conformation. The switch to the prion state alters protein function, which can result in the appearance of new traits, some helpful, some detrimental. Sophisticated cellular machinery ensures that replicating [reproducing] prion templates are chopped into pieces that can be passed to daughter cells during cell division. Importantly, the rate at which proteins switch into and out of the prion state increases in response to environmental stress, suggesting that they are part of an inherent survival mechanism that helps yeasts adapt to changes in their surroundings. All the prions appear capable of creating diverse new traits, nearly half of which are beneficial. Convinced of the impact prions have had on yeast evolution, the researchers speculate that these shape-shifting The Atheist Delusion: Science IS Finding God 91 proteins may be "remnants of early life," from a time when inheritance was predominantly protein-based rather than nucleic-acid based (Prions are a common mechanism for phenotypic inheritance in wild yeasts. Nature, 2012; 482 (7385): 363 DOI: 10.1038/nature10875).-This discovery with information-bearing prions opens up a new theoretical area of an early attempt at an origin of life. But it is a surprising odd-ball discovery considering what has been thought to be reasonable in the past. Prions are proteins. The big issue is how did they start? Where did their information come from? In other words, prions have the same problems all the other molecules have, which have been considered or attempted."-As I said, interesting but don't advance any theories.
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