Species consciousness and instinct. (Introduction)
> dhw: How can an automaton have "leeway in choice"? With what faculty does it make its choice?-No problem. the intelligent info in the DNA offeres A,b, or c as responses to varying stimuli. > > dhw: [/i]Evolution doesn't make anything. Either the cell communities made the eyes, or your God made them.-So evolution just evolves with no outcome? We really don't know. All we know is it takes a mind ot make a plan. Body plans in the Cambrian were unique. Who thought them up? Or did they grow like Topsy? > > dhw; I am indeed demanding precision because you have devised a scenario which doesn't make sense to me.- But nothing makes sense to you. You don't want choices. Then you would have to pick a choice nad quite being agnostic.-> dhw: Therefore according to your automaton theory ALL individual innovations and ALL species were divinely preprogrammed into the very first cells.-That is not what I have written to you. The cells have limited choices, so there is an outcome of some variation. > > dhw: If they were not all automatons preprogrammed to do so, and were not specially created, they must have had an internal mechanism that enabled them to work out their own individual, independent ways of coping with or exploiting the environment. Or, to quote a man whose opinions and learning I greatly respect: "the ability to respond with unique answers and [...] some degree of "epigenetic" decision-making." This applies all the way along the line from eukaryotes to trilobites to tyrannosauruses to Turells.-Of course. that is why life is so inventive. Six pairs of eyes. I don't know why it is so difficult to understand, until I remember you don't want to make choices. Only proof solid of every step from amoeba to humans. Good luck.
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2013-10-29, 22:05
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2013-10-29, 20:02
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2013-10-29, 05:08
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dhw,
2013-10-28, 17:32
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2013-10-27, 18:48
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dhw,
2013-10-27, 17:44
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2013-10-26, 18:41
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2013-10-26, 18:17
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2013-10-26, 01:28
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dhw,
2013-10-25, 17:08
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2013-10-25, 01:42
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2013-10-24, 20:31
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2013-10-23, 15:45
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2013-10-23, 14:21
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2013-10-23, 01:41
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