Species consciousness and instinct. (Introduction)

by David Turell , Monday, October 21, 2013, 19:48 (4051 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw: The list of incidents concerning transplant patients whose lifestyles have changed in accordance with the tastes and habits of the donors, and who remember facts that could only have been known to the donors, makes it clear that unless there is wholesale cheating going on, some cell communities (organs) retain individual characteristics and memories, and are able not only to pass them onto other cell communities, but can even change the make-up of those communities (e.g. sexual orientation, taste). Quite apart from the suggestion that the brain is not the only container of memory (in contrast to what you say above), all of this has far-reaching implications.-Your statement, I think only supports my suggesting that species consciousness contains memory. You need to read Sheldrake's studies. For example, a cross word puzzle is published in London on Monday and the same puzzle appears in Liverpool on Tuesday. The Liverpudlians solve it faster than the Londoners!!!-The story about blue tits drinking cream off the top of the milk bottles in WWII is the same. Before WWII they learned to do it. No cream during the war and they lost the habit pattern or instinct. When cream returned after the war, the later generations of blue tits relearned it faster.-> 
> dhw; Without memory it is impossible to learn and to innovate. David, you have singled out species consciousness and instinct. If cell communities (organs) can retain and communicate individual memories, as seems to be the case, there is no reason why they should not also retain collective memories at a less conscious level. This would account for your Monarch butterfly's migration. ..... This process is clearly essential during innovation too, since each cell community must cooperate with the others, using the knowledge gained through each kind of memory, but also adding knowledge of new conditions, just as the brain and apparently the heart add new experiences to their memory storehouse and use them to change the organism as a whole. -Again, you pursue hunt and peck to create complicated organs. Pipedream.