Making waves (Introduction)
dhw: As I said to Tony, it's entirely up to you whether you believe in common descent or you believe in separate creation. Darwin repeatedly argued that his theory was perfectly compatible with belief in a creator God, and many theists including yourself find no difficulty in combining those two theories. But Darwin's is not compatible with the account given in the bible as we know it. Find me a different version of Genesis, or give me a Darwinian interpretation of the account we know, and I might take your claim more seriously!-DAVID: Once again, the interpretation is easy. Use eon for yom. Kinds of animals and plants were developed over long periods. The bible doesn't say how kinds were created, just that they were, but that approach allows for a God guided evolution. Stop being so literal.-Evolution says that kinds evolved from earlier kinds, not that they were "created" or "made" by God, and most important of all, evolution says that humans and chimps evolved from a common ancestor, not that God specially created man out of the dust of the ground and made woman from Adam's rib. As I keep saying, long periods are not the issue here, which is no doubt why you prefer to cherry-pick that part of the text and gloss over the part which forms the basis of the biblical creationist (i.e. anti-evolution) argument. However, your fellow theist Tony acknowledges that the bible is anti-common descent, and since he first stated that the bible was not anti-evolution, I assume that he now recants. You will not recant because you are as stubborn as I am!
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