A RESPONSE TO THOMAS KELLY (Religion)

by Thomas Kelly , Thursday, May 31, 2012, 14:33 (4557 days ago) @ Thomas Kelly

You put. -"What does "so you may be the sons of your Father" actually mean? Don't Christians believe that all of us are God's children, including Assad, his soldiers, and his victims?"-Jesus said in Matthew 12:50 of below-For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother." -New International Version (NIV)-http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+12&version=NIV-Comparing the two different parts of scripture we've used, The words "so you may be the sons of your Father" were used to show us what kind of family we may become a part of and some people in Israel at that time had knowledge of that rank.-You Put. -"Since God makes his sun rise on harmful and righteous and his rain fall on just and unjust alike, is this not an indication that it makes no difference to him how we act?"-Yes it is not an indication, punishment comes in many ways through disease, through human justice and natural disasters and accidents and as a result of our errors. Our suffering is part of teaching us to be wise and you may learn from that how God has blessed us with the will to choose and not do all things by necessity so we may be people of will and be wise. Some people escape from death because of doctors, tools and medicine and similar kinds of things mankind uses and many things are for preservation and enjoyment.-From the early church fathers below part of the evidence of explanation about why God permits evil.-Part of -"Chapter XXIV.—Why God Permits Evil.-For if, wishing to fill up the number and measure of His creation, He had been afraid of the wickedness of those who were to be, and like one who could find no other way of remedy and cure, except only this, that He should refrain from His purpose of creating, lest the wickedness of those who were to be should be ascribed to Him; what else would this show but unworthy suffering and unseemly feebleness on the part of the Creator, who should so fear the actings of those who as yet were not, that He refrained from His purposed creation?"-From The Recognitions of Clement, Book IV.-From http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf08.vi.iii.vi.xxiv.html-More from an early church father for you.-Part of-"Chap. XIII.—Of the Advantage and Use of the World and of the Seasons.-For if only good things are placed in sight, what need is there of reflection, of understanding, of knowledge, of reason? since, wherever he shall extend his hand, that is befitting and adapted to nature; so that if any one should wish to place a most exquisite dinner before infants, who as yet have no taste, it is plain that each will desire that to which either impulse, or hunger, or even accident, shall attract them; and whatever they shall take, it will be useful and salutary to them. What injury will it therefore be for them always to remain as they are, and always to be infants and unacquainted with affairs? But if you add a mixture either of bitter things, or things useless, or even poisonous, they are plainly deceived through their ignorance of good and evil, unless wisdom is added to them, by which they may have the rejection of evil things and the choice of good things. 
You see, therefore, that we have greater need of wisdom on account of evils; and unless these things had been proposed to us, we should not be a rational animal."-From A Treatise on the Anger of God Addressed to Donatus.-From http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf07.iii.iii.xiii.html -In that collection of works you may gain more knowledge of divine providence.-You put.-"Please explain the exact logic behind the words you have translated, especially the significance of the clause beginning "because".-The words of the clause beginning "because" were used to show how God benefits everybody, friend and enemy, constantly, and He is the greatest Father to imitate. Continued in next post.

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