bacterial (cellular) intelligence shown to be DNA driven (Animals)

by David Turell , Tuesday, December 05, 2017, 14:52 (2333 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: And you admit all of this purposeful activity could be the plan of a designer.

dhw: You are a master of obfuscation! I admit that the autonomous intelligence of organisms could be the invention of your God. If my hypothesis is correct, all this purposeful activity has been designed by the cellular communities themselves. I do not admit that your God could have preprogrammed all this purposeful activity – along with every innovation, lifestyle and natural wonder – 3.8 billion years ago, or that he personally dabbles to direct every new, purposeful activity performed by every cell community. If cells learn by experience, that suggests to me that they are not preprogrammed or being dabbled with.

Cells can be programmed to learn from experience. That is exactly what the immune system cells do!

DAVID: (under"revisiting convergence"): In my view the appearance of cellular intelligent action can be from designed activities in the cell supplied by God's design. How this can be translated into cell committees designing their own future evolutionary changes is for me beyond reason. What is the source of heir intelligence? Evidence not available in science.

dhw: “Activities supplied by God’s design” is another of your nebulous phrases which can only mean your God’s instructions passed on through a computer programme inserted in the first cells 3.8 billion years ago, or personally dabbled as each new set of circumstances arises. This for me is “beyond reason”. If your God exists, he must be the source of cellular intelligence. If he doesn’t, the source can only be chance or some form of panpsychism. The evidence for ANY of these hypotheses is not available in science.

The evidence is not yet available, but the fact still remains that cells can be programmed to act intelligentluy or they are intelligent. I'm on one side, you are on the other, and you expect cells to evolve to develop intelligence on their own from the first life forms.