say what? (Epistemology) (The atheist delusion)

by xeno6696 @, Sonoran Desert, Sunday, February 05, 2012, 20:48 (4435 days ago) @ scoobypoo

If you want a different way of how I worded the previous post to dhw, it is this:-Any position of strict materialism fails, because of these points:-1. Science ultimately boils everything into mathematics. (A question must be true OR false.) <--If you don&apos;t want details, you will take this on faith.&#13;&#10;2. Godel&apos;s incompleteness theorem dictates that any system of axioms will contain at least one property that you can&apos;t explain using the rules of the system. -It is exactly this argument that convinced Einstein a &quot;Theory of Everything&quot; was futile. Some physicists have countered that physics only uses mathematics to describe the natural world, and that because of this Godel&apos;s incompleteness theorem doesn&apos;t apply. Without getting into the technicals you (again) have to take it on faith that physics, if it wants to be able to use numbers, necessarily takes on ALL of the rules of mathematics--it doesn&apos;t get to pick and choose, and by virtue of that alone, you will never create a &quot;theory of everything.&quot;

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"


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