Epigenetics, revisited (Introduction)

by David Turell , Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 23:34 (4790 days ago) @ dhw

In other posts you have talked of everything being "energy" in one form or another, so let's say the first cause is primal energy. Perhaps this would even be acceptable to all theists, atheists and agnostics alike. But the theist says that primal energy is conscious of itself, the atheist says it's unconscious. The theist says that life and our universe are deliberate creations by conscious primal energy; the atheist says that unconscious primal energy has come up with life and our universe by chance after an eternity and infinity of accidental combinations. The agnostic says hmmmerrrummmphhh. The theist and the atheist are copper-outers because both explanations leave a multitude of unanswerable questions. However, it might also be argued that the agnostic is also a copper-outer because he refuses to believe in any answer to unanswerable questions. A fair summary?-Very fair. But. We are left with the same old ending to the discussion. 'Something' must be eternal, a first cause. Since energy is all that is, to quote bBella in paraphrase, we must start with a consideration of energy. We are excluding the idea that the initial 'first cause' energy came from nothing. Nothin is a complete void, nothingness. So energy is always eternal, either in the form of this universe or a multiverse. Or it is just pure energy in the form of teleologic energy, purposeful energy. Why should we image a pure energy with no directionality? If we do that, then we have to summon forth a Darwinian mechanism to make that energy evolve into a body of energy with directionality. What would cause that? Pure energy floating around should have no impetus to change. Therefore the energy has a direction and and a purpose. Otherwise we wouldn't be here discussion this. My motto is FIRST CAUSE FOREVER!