Killing the Watchmaker (Origins)
The original link was about founding belief on reason. Just because you do not know something is not reason enough to doubt its existence. Reason will lead to the conclusion that something exists even if you do not have the knowledge to say exactly what that something is. That was the authors point when he says that once you have evidence it is no longer belief, it is knowing, and there is a fundamental difference between the two. Reason leads me to believe in a deity. I do not make claims to the nature of the deity other than what I can observe, and as you pointed out in your OP, there is no comparable analogy so any inference I make is by necessity incomplete and wrong. So we can extend your OP to say that there is no analogy for the universe, life, or God, but lack of complete knowledge or proper analogy does not dictate disbelief where reason leads us to the conclusion that there is something to believe in. Grok?-My position isn't of "disbelief" as much as it is lacking justification for belief...
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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"
\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"
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