The Electric Universe (Evolution)
(Just to put this out there up front all of my sarcasm in this post is directed towards the BBT, not to anyone here.)-Xeno, -Just to make sure we are on the same page, let me see if I can break it down into layman's what the BBT expects us to believe.-The universe expanded rapidly into emptiness at speeds exceeding the speed of light.-Yet, even though everything was expanding in every direction in a plasma state, the particles themselves were not expanding outward, they were just kind of taking a direction at random. (the universe was expanding but that which constitutes the universe was not.. even though our observations now say that everything is expanding AWAY from each other..)-And that this went on for roughly 1 billion years.. and then magically, a bunch of particles that were not only expanding, but accelerating, away from each other (while absentmindedly moving every which way including AGAINST their inertial movement) decided to stop expanding away from each other and clump together for a little while, then collapse in on themselves into a tightly packed ball of dust and gas that ignited to form a star. -Tada! Gravity Houdini strikes again... --And for goodness sake please do not misconstrue what I said to be saying that the universe expanded in a homogenous spherical shape etc.-I can't break it down much simpler, but if you can't see the flaws in that then I am not sure what else to say. --Have a look at this article.. A little ways down is a section titled "From the beginning..." Examine the second chart.-Then they go on to say that All of the galaxies are expanding AWAY from each other....(Well.. all of them except for those really close to us because of course gravity has the ability to change the inertia of massive objects moving at ultra high speeds...... yeah.. that's it!)--Tada! Gravity Houdini, ladies and gentlemen. - The argument you guys are posting basically says that AFTER the big bang, everything was hanging around, and THEN started accelerating away from each other without a subsequent catalyst. -As for the CMBR, both the BBT and the EU theory accept they same basic premise for the first 3 minutes or so of the existence of the universe which is where the CMBR was formed if I am not mistaken. Where the theories diverge is basically over the ability of gravity to affect anything at those speeds and distances enough to overcome their momentum.--Astrophysicist George F. R. Ellis explains: "People need to be aware that there is a range of models that could explain the observations....For instance, I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it based on observations....You can only exclude it on philosophical grounds. In my view there is absolutely nothing wrong in that. What I want to bring into the open is the fact that we are using philosophical criteria in choosing our models. A lot of cosmology tries to hide that."
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- The Electric Universe -
dhw,
2011-03-09, 11:57
- The Electric Universe -
David Turell,
2011-03-10, 22:51
- The Electric Universe -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-03-11, 15:30
- The Electric Universe -
David Turell,
2011-03-11, 17:28
- The Electric Universe - Balance_Maintained, 2011-03-11, 21:48
- The Electric Universe -
xeno6696,
2011-03-13, 18:36
- The Electric Universe -
David Turell,
2011-03-13, 20:37
- The Electric Universe -
xeno6696,
2011-03-13, 20:46
- The Electric Universe -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-03-13, 21:22
- The Electric Universe - David Turell, 2011-03-13, 21:58
- The Electric Universe - xeno6696, 2011-03-13, 23:26
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-03-13, 21:22
- The Electric Universe -
xeno6696,
2011-03-13, 20:46
- The Electric Universe -
David Turell,
2011-03-13, 20:37
- The Electric Universe -
David Turell,
2011-03-11, 17:28
- The Electric Universe -
dhw,
2011-03-11, 19:12
- The Electric Universe -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-03-11, 22:42
- Test, just a test - JohnAdled, 2012-04-23, 10:24
- The Electric Universe -
David Turell,
2011-03-12, 14:00
- The Electric Universe - Balance_Maintained, 2011-03-12, 15:22
- The Electric Universe -
dhw,
2011-03-13, 11:19
- The Electric Universe -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-03-13, 12:40
- The Electric Universe - David Turell, 2011-03-14, 16:59
- The Electric Universe - David Turell, 2011-03-14, 17:05
- The Electric Universe -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-03-13, 12:40
- The Electric Universe -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-03-11, 22:42
- The Electric Universe -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-03-11, 15:30
- I thought your posting was neat and will stop by generally. - JohnBaileys, 2012-06-14, 14:05
- The Electric Universe -
David Turell,
2011-03-10, 22:51