\"God is organized energy\" (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Sunday, December 05, 2010, 02:34 (4885 days ago) @ dhw

... The crux of the whole argument is whether organized energy is conscious of itself, or merely acts and reacts according to unconscious laws of Nature. A Universal Intelligence is by definition intelligent and therefore conscious. If there is no UI, then energy organizes itself. From a neutral standpoint, then, the quote should read: "If there is a UI/God, it is organized energy." Whether this actually gets us anywhere I'm not sure!-Self-organizing implies intelligence of a form. As for another little tidbit, the 'unconscious laws of nature' are by their very essence a form of organized energy. So saying that "acts and reacts according to unconscious laws of Nature" is much like saying acts and reacts according to its own laws. Laws imply planned action/consequence/reaction scenarios, which in turn imply intelligence. The problem with this argument, to my mind at least, is that no matter which way we try to reductively argue this concept, we will always come back to intelligence, and therefore a UI of some form. This is why I have such a problem with the atheistic point of view(no offense George).