\"God is organized energy\" (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by dhw, Saturday, December 04, 2010, 12:22 (5102 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained

TONY (B_M): Nothing is possible without organized energy. [...] If you can think of something more pervasive, more controlling, more flexible in application, and more capable of accomplishment that organized energy, I would love to know.-You addressed this to David, but David's view is even more emphatic than yours ... hence the title of this thread. He says: "The UI is pure energy 'organized' into intellect."-I like this as a definition of God, but if I were an atheist, I would have no trouble agreeing with your own statement. (George, come back!) I would say that the universe and everything in it consists of self-organizing energy. In other words, you can say God is organized energy, but an atheist will say organized energy is not God. The crux of the whole argument is whether organized energy is conscious of itself, or merely acts and reacts according to unconscious laws of Nature. A Universal Intelligence is by definition intelligent and therefore conscious. If there is no UI, then energy organizes itself. From a neutral standpoint, then, the quote should read: "If there is a UI/God, it is organized energy." Whether this actually gets us anywhere I'm not sure!