Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! (Introduction)
It is actually funny that you mentioned plasma several times, as the plasma model is my current favorite, and I think ultimately the best fit. - To respond to some of your points:->The expansion was not entirely uniform, clumping the gases as they appeared, when plasma cooled. But the universe is 'uniform' over massive distances. How would you form stars?-Plasma filament and Z pinches.->Haven't you studied Hoyle and molecular resonances?-No, I haven't, I will look it up.-"In the sequence of atomic weight numbers 5 and 8 are vacant. That is, there is no stable atom of mass 5 or mass 8 . . The question then is: How can the buildup of elements by neutron capture get by these gaps? The process could not go beyond helium 4 and even if it spanned this gap it would be stopped again at mass 8. This basic objection to Gamow's theory is a great disappointment in view of the promise and philosophical attractiveness of the idea."—*William A. Fowler, California Institute of Technology, quoted in Creation Science, p. 90.-***removed comment pending references***->Where is the center? No one knows. There are vast empty areas and then there is the 'Great Wall' of galaxies.-Fortunately, according to modern physics, everyplace is expanding away from every other place. If BBT were true, by creating vectors of expansion of at least 3 astral bodies, they should be able to find a center of source where the history of the three vectors intersect. They can't, or they would have already announced it. That is basic of basic spherical trig.->Diffrent stars of different ages have different composition. To have our solar system lots of iron must be present. Not all stars are like ours with ,little or no iron.-Yes, but they do not have consistent compositions that match the predictions of the BBT. Some older stars have more heavy metals than younger stars, some have less. According to the BBT they should all have more heavy metals in their composition. (Because us of the cyclic transmutation of hydrogen and helium to heavier metals.)->I don't know what dark matter is either, but something has unseen marked gravitational effects.-Gravity is a 'weak force' and is unable to account for the phenomena that is being observed. Electromagnetism is a much much greater force, and far more likely a candidate.-And since you recommended Hoyle, here is his statement regarding BBT.-"The main efforts of investigators have been in papering over holes in the Big Bang theory, to build up an idea that has become ever more complex and cumbersome . . I have little hesitation in saying that a sickly pall now hangs over the Big Bang theory. When a pattern of facts becomes set against a theory, experience shows that the theory rarely recovers."—*Sir Fred Hoyle, "The Big Bang Theory under Attack," Science Digest, May 1984, p. 84.
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-24, 22:39
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George Jelliss,
2010-09-24, 23:54
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! - Balance_Maintained, 2010-09-25, 00:38
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2010-09-26, 00:33
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2010-09-25, 14:11
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2010-09-25, 14:51
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2010-09-25, 15:28
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2010-09-25, 18:14
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2010-09-25, 18:24
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2010-09-25, 18:27
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2010-09-25, 19:05
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2010-09-25, 19:11
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2010-09-25, 19:11
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2010-09-25, 20:21
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2010-09-27, 10:40
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2010-09-28, 01:25
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2010-09-28, 01:25
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-28, 00:42
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David Turell,
2010-09-27, 21:30
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-27, 19:15
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David Turell,
2010-09-27, 17:45
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2010-09-27, 17:01
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David Turell,
2010-09-27, 15:23
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-25, 19:05
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David Turell,
2010-09-25, 18:27
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-25, 18:54
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David Turell,
2010-09-25, 19:23
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-25, 19:51
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2010-09-25, 20:05
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2010-09-25, 20:34
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2010-09-25, 21:11
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2010-09-25, 21:57
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George Jelliss,
2010-09-25, 22:13
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-25, 23:35
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2010-09-26, 00:23
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-26, 00:39
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2010-09-26, 03:35
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2010-09-26, 12:48
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2010-09-26, 14:49
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2010-09-26, 15:14
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-26, 16:27
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-26, 16:27
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2010-09-26, 15:14
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! - David Turell, 2010-09-26, 15:08
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-26, 14:49
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-26, 12:48
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David Turell,
2010-09-26, 03:35
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-26, 00:39
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
David Turell,
2010-09-26, 00:23
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-25, 23:35
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
David Turell,
2010-09-26, 00:15
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-10-06, 16:08
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2010-10-07, 13:29
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2010-10-07, 15:07
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! - David Turell, 2010-10-07, 18:12
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David Turell,
2010-10-07, 15:07
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dhw,
2010-10-07, 13:29
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-10-06, 16:08
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
George Jelliss,
2010-09-25, 22:13
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-25, 21:57
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
David Turell,
2010-09-25, 21:11
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-25, 20:34
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
David Turell,
2010-09-25, 20:05
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
David Turell,
2010-09-25, 19:23
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
David Turell,
2010-09-25, 18:24
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! - Balance_Maintained, 2010-09-25, 18:16
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
David Turell,
2010-09-25, 18:14
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-25, 15:28
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
xeno6696,
2010-09-26, 01:00
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-26, 01:47
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! - xeno6696, 2010-09-26, 17:31
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! - Balance_Maintained, 2010-09-26, 16:09
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-26, 01:47
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xeno6696,
2010-09-26, 01:01
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-26, 01:54
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?!(Pt.2) - xeno6696, 2010-09-26, 17:36
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Balance_Maintained,
2010-09-26, 01:54
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
David Turell,
2010-09-25, 14:51
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! - Balance_Maintained, 2010-09-26, 17:40
- Pow! Zap! (Big) Bang?! -
George Jelliss,
2010-09-24, 23:54