The Far East (Religion)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Saturday, September 18, 2010, 17:35 (5180 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained

As for your other question on how the writers of the Bible had access to that information; cultural transmission beginning at a time before the founding of the Sumerian religion--the earliest known culture with a flood myth.
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> A misunderstanding on what I meant by how they had access to that information. I am not asking where they would have known about the flood myth, but rather, how they would have known that there was water deep deep in the Earth beyond their technological ability to detect at the time. 
> -In that case, I would say that it would be easy to surmise as well-water existed for the Sumerians. If we know that water comes from the ground--and it seems to be endless--then it isn't hard to come to the conclusion that a "world flood" would be caused by the "endless" supply of water underground. -> 
> Secondly, I noticed a flaw in the article you sent.(Good article by the way) In the petroleum industry, oil is found in resevoirs that pretty much mirror what was described in the article, which is to say tiny droplets are trapped in the rocks. Yet we are able to drill and pull out thousands of barrells a day from a single rock encased resevoir. How we manage that is called, in the field at least, frac jobs. High pressure sand encased in a chemical specifically designed to break down at a certain temp and pressure. The pressure fractures the rock, and forces the sand into the cracks where the chemical wrapping becomes water and draines out leaving the sand in place. The oil then begins to flow quite rapidly in most cases.
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> Knowing that it is not only possible, but routine, to perform this type of procedure in the crust, makes me wonder if it could happen in the mantle. All that would be necessary is for that rock containing the water to receive enough of an impact to fracture. If the temp/pressure was high enough, water could be forced out of the same subduction zones that transported it downwords to begin with. Which is to say that in theory there is a way to eject the water without ejecting the mantle at all, and we do it every day in the crust.-But as I said earlier, the re-subduction of all that water would take alot longer than the time given in the bible. And assuming the BEST case scenario of .2% water in perovskite, you still need to leech water from half of the mantle. My analysis still stands. We know that veins of other rocks than perovskite exist that would complicate this. -Why can't you accept a more reasonable explanation: 1.6% of the worlds water is sweetwater. (Fresh water). Early civilizations all lived near rivers; The Nile, Babylon, sites near the Yangtze in China. Therefore a paper calculation says that most civilizations inhabited about 4% of the world's total surface area. What do rivers do? They flood. Sometimes we get "100yr floods." A hurricane could cause deeper problems. But my point is that many many different cultures would get a flood myth this way, and it would explain the few who don't.-One of the most telling instances is the lack of a Uighur "world flood" in the northernmost wastelands of Russia. These people live in the mountains, get their water from springs, and get most of their nutrients from eating goats; very little agriculture. A proper "world flood" theory must account for this. -For all of these peoples; their world flood. But not the WHOLE world. This event would later be used by mystics in attempt to reconcile why their god(s) did this--often to punish man.

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