Plasma Cosmology as the fourth form of matter (Introduction)

by David Turell , Tuesday, July 02, 2019, 19:02 (1972 days ago) @ dhw

QUOTES: Yet plasma, for all its scarcity in our daily lives, makes up more than 99 per cent of the observable matter in the Universe.
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"First, though, how do you make a plasma? Imagine heating up a container full of ice, and watching it pass from solid, to liquid, to gas. As the temperature climbs, the water molecules get more energetic and excitable, and move around more and more freely. If you keep going, at something like 12,000 degrees Celsius the atoms themselves will begin to break apart. Electrons will be stripped from their nuclei, leaving behind charged particles known as ions that swirl about in the resulting soup of electrons. This is the plasma state.”

DAVID: Energy and matter are always equivalent in that they are both the same thing, but as the author notes in the opening paragraph, plasma is not matter as we usually think of it. It is the purest form of energy we can see as a gaseous state of pure charged ions. I've always thought of God as pure energy, but I don't know if He is in this gaseous form. One would think He is in a more organized form. But His form must remain as an unknown.

dhw: I have always been bewildered by the idea that your God can have any organized form. I don’t understand how an organized form can be eternal, unchanged and present throughout an ever changing material universe. If you think he might be in a form even more organized than material gases, then clearly you think material gases can be conscious. In that case, it is just as logical to suppose that billions of individual blobs of consciousness combined to form billions of different facets of the universe and life as to believe that all the blobs had always been part of a single consciousness, but one day it decided to split itself up into the different facets while still remaining itself.

My position is always the same. I believe in panentheism in which the universe exists in God's consciousness and He is within and without the universe. Your imagination has, as usual, run away with itself. Plasma is a very specialized form and differs from other material gasses as the article makes quite clear. Perhaps you did not understand the points in the article.