Politics and science; is science being corrupted? (Introduction)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Monday, February 15, 2010, 15:50 (5394 days ago) @ David Turell


> > My point, is that even if an active conspiracy works against a theory or an idea, on a long enough timeline--such a conspiracy can never hold if the weight of the explanation is TRULY powerful. Peer review can fail, but a simple appearance on TV was enough to take a theory, advance it, and make it the center stage in an entire field of study. 
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> > This is what I mean when I say that I don't think the system is broken.
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> Immediate developments in the climate gate scandal are making your point:
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> A math study from Israel: 
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> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/02/14/new-paper-on/#more-16426
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> And Phil Jones from CRU at East Anglia:
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> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/02/14/phil-jones-momentous-qa-with-bbc-reopens-the-scie... 
> However, how much money has been spent on phony grants and how much time wasted in this illgotten pursuit. How about cap-and-trade and capitalists making money from the sky-is-falling hysteria. Yes the truth is dragging itself out under the weight of the phoniness started by the hacked emails. What if they were never hacked. Must we rely on one good honest person to appear to oversome a peer review system that asks for conspiracy. Human nature is to sin if you can get away with it. Ronald Reagan: "Trust, but verify".-The nature of human nature doesn't allow conspiracies to be held for long. Sooner or later the dams burst--even more so in science where a great deal of fame is bestowed upon someone who overturns a long-held paradigm. In the end, Adam Smith turns out right again: Self-Interest wins. -How much money were spent on phony grants in Linear B? Fifty years of scientists were forced to adopt a bad perspective that was a dead end. Things like this always happen, and--will happen again. -As for the quip about human nature being one of sinning when they can get away with it, that's a gross over-generalization. Look at the NYC power outage back in '03, '04. It turned into a gigantic block party, with an incredibly low crime rate. If you look for evil, you shall find it.

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