Information; does it lie at the basis of reality (Introduction)
QUOTE: "Whereas vagueness may be defensible in regard to natural entities conceivably beyond the human ability to apprehend, it is difficult to justify when it comes to a human concept, such as information. We invented the concept, so we either specify clearly what we mean by it or our conceptualization remains too vague to be meaningful. In the latter case, there is literally no sense in attributing primary existence to information.
DAVID: Basically the dhw bus will run you over, quantum findings or not.
dhw: Thank you. I’ve picked out the above quotation, as it mirrors my own thoughts precisely. Information as I define it is nothing but passive facts or details which we extrapolate from what most of us assume are the realities of the world around us. It has no function of its own until it has a user.
Generally correct, but consider that the universe is the passive receiver of formative information. Same for the Milky Way, the Earth, and the start of life. All passive, but once life is operational it is an active participant and user. As such, this may be why God found He had to use evolution and not direct creation of humans.
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- Information; does it lie at the basis of reality -
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- Information; does it lie at the basis of reality -
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- Information; does it lie at the basis of reality - David Turell, 2019-04-04, 15:28
- Information; does it lie at the basis of reality -
dhw,
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- Information; does it lie at the basis of reality -
David Turell,
2019-04-03, 18:03
- Information; does it lie at the basis of reality -
dhw,
2019-04-03, 13:05
- Information; does it lie at the basis of reality -
David Turell,
2019-04-02, 15:41
- Information; does it lie at the basis of reality -
dhw,
2019-04-02, 10:35
- Information; does it lie at the basis of reality -
David Turell,
2019-03-26, 17:00
- Information; does it lie at the basis of reality -
dhw,
2019-03-26, 15:06
- Information; applied to matter creates life -
David Turell,
2017-07-27, 21:49
- Information; applied to matter creates life -
David Turell,
2017-07-21, 01:15
- Information; needed for evolution to progress -
dhw,
2017-05-05, 12:49
- Information; needed for evolution to progress -
David Turell,
2017-05-05, 01:57
- Information; needed for evolution to progress -
dhw,
2017-05-04, 12:22
- Information; needed for evolution to progress -
David Turell,
2017-05-04, 02:04