Epistemology of Design (The limitations of science)
> Your probability of life appearing in our universe must have a number or "probability limit" (to use one of your previous examples) of that kind of magnitude before chance can even enter the conversation. Before then, life is a deterministic property of the universe with or without a creator God.-Matt: I know you are trying hard, but you have totally lost me. I'm talking about biochemistry and you are bringing in particles which make up molecules. I've read about spins, half-spins, 2/3 rd spins. I know about quarks. I don't see why we have to jump, as I view it, backwards to the basic particles underlying elements and molecular structure. Particles as bits of information, if the universe is treated as a giant computer, is understandable, but seems to me to be extraneous to our discussion. Shannon information theory might apply to understanding the coding of info in DNA, but DNA, itself, is not life. All I know about Shannon theory is that it exists. With my basic algebra years and years ago finally reaching analytic algabra is all I've got and most is forgotten. I suggest you use lay terms for your math, and explain your point differently, or let's stop at this point. I do appreciate your effort.
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xeno6696,
2009-12-09, 19:32
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David Turell,
2009-12-09, 20:49
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
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2009-12-14, 20:25
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2009-12-13, 20:03
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2009-12-13, 12:31
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2009-12-13, 06:53
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2009-12-13, 01:37
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Matt,
2009-12-12, 23:53
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David Turell,
2009-12-12, 23:02
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2009-12-12, 18:59
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2009-12-12, 16:08
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2009-12-12, 15:54
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David Turell,
2009-12-11, 00:53
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xeno6696,
2009-12-10, 15:55
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David Turell,
2009-12-10, 06:04
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xeno6696,
2009-12-09, 23:59
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dhw,
2009-12-10, 14:43
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2009-12-11, 15:17
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2009-12-10, 18:02
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2009-12-09, 20:49