Watching asteroids: a close one is coming (Introduction)

by David Turell , Tuesday, April 18, 2017, 15:21 (2777 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: I don't know why and neither do you. I presume to share in His consciousness and relate to Him through it. I've said this before.

dhw: The only unknown factor you are not prepared to discuss is your God’s purpose for producing humans, even though you insist that the whole of “creation” is related to that one purpose. You don’t and can’t “know” that either, so why do you bother to discuss it? Fortunately, however, there are now signs that you are coming down off your theistic fence!

You are looking for a purpose behind a purpose! God's purpose in producing humans does not have to have a God reason behind it. I see his purpose in how He engineered the evolution of humans from monkeys 23 million years ago. See yesterday's entry. You want me to see into God's mind. I can't! Again you are asking a humanizing question about God.

dhw: If it is reasonable to assume he is pleased with his creations, then why is it unreasonable to suggest that he created them in order to derive pleasure from them – and what is the difference between deriving pleasure and enjoying?
DAVID: Tony has covered this. I'm sure He has been pleased with his creations, but not with the bad results of granting free will.

dhw: You have not answered my question. If you are sure he has been pleased with his creations, why do you refuse to consider the possibility that he created them in the hope that they would please him, i.e. give him pleasure, i.e. enable him to enjoy them?

You want to keep humanizing Him. Fine. He might well be pleased and have pleasure. That is beside the points I make as to his purpose. I don't care about God's thinking leading up to his choice of purpose, because I cannot find any evidence to support a supposition about it.