New Oxygen research; importance to evolution (Introduction)
dhw: (under “Evolution took a long time”): I am simply pointing out that invaders disturbing the “balance of nature” have nothing to do with your God designing and destroying countless species in order to produce humans.
DAVID: How does evolution proceed without loss of earlier species?
That still has nothing to do with invaders disturbing the “balance of nature”. And it still doesn’t mean that God had to design all the extinct species, lifestyles and wonders in order to get to humans. And evolution has proceeded with some species surviving. I might just as well ask you why your God couldn’t simply have concentrated on the species that were necessary for the evolution of humans instead of bringing in all the unnecessary ones and then killing them off.
DAVID's comment : Life depends upon the energy released by oxidation. There is no question of the relationship of oxygen levels and the ability to evolve. But there was no obvious requirement to complexify, so I have concluded that the organisms contained a driving mechanism or God stepped in to drive evolution. Both ideas fit the history .
Just to keep the record clear: I too have concluded that the organisms may contain a driving mechanism, possibly designed by your God, and if he exists, he may also have stepped in occasionally. And I find it far more likely that an autonomous inventive driving mechanism was responsible for the vast majority of evolutionary innovations, lifestyles and natural wonders rather than a mechanism preprogrammed by your God 3.8 billion years ago to deliver each and every one of them. I trust you are standing by your earlier agreement to the possibility of the mechanism being autonomous (bar divine dabbling).
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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2016-08-25, 15:33
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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