More on Spetner's views (Introduction)
David's comment: Note that Spetner believes in God, and perhaps Coyne explains Shapiro.-dhw:The sentence you have put in bold is very unclear. What does “it all evolved” refer to? As Shapiro has elsewhere refused to be drawn on the subject of origins, I cannot believe for one moment that he is discussing anything other than how evolution works - not how the intelligent cell came into being. -DAVID: The sentence is unclear to you because perhaps you have not read Coyne. He is, in my view, one of the nasty Neo-atheists, worse then Dawkins, also now a retiring professor at U. Chicago(as is Shapiro). The writer of the quote presumes that Shapiro gives a bow to Darwin ('it all evolved') while remaining in private life a believer and knows Coyne as I do.-I had gathered that Coyne is an atheist. My point is that Shapiro's belief in the intelligent cell and in evolution (though not in Darwin's explanation of it) clearly has nothing to do with theism or atheism. The comment “it all evolved” plus the reference to Coyne is misleading in its vagueness, as it sounds as if Shapiro's belief in evolution could be a pretence.
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