Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? (The nature of a \'Creator\')
For what it's worth, I completely agree with the thrust behind your question. The argument "life is too complex therefore there must have been a designer" is a breathtaking non-sequitur. dhw woud doubtless retort that he is not saying that it must have had a designer, merely that it may have, but this doesn't get him off the hook. - As Dawkins and others have pointed out, this means that a designer must be at least as complex as what he designed and then you get into infinite regress: "who designed the designer?" and so on. It's turtles all the way down! - In the early days of this site, I was fond of making the "god-of-the-gaps" argument which was, in my 'umble opinion, never rebutted adeqautely. The gist of the response was that this gap is really, really special. This time, it's different. Oh-oh! Those seeking to shoe-horn a designer (ok, dwh, the possibility of one) into the ever-shrinking gaps in biology will come unstuck, of that we can be reasonably confident. They may be happy making their religion such a hostage to fortune but, if I were a theist, I'd want something a lot less vulnerable to explanation, something far grander and more ineffable - if only from an aesthetic point of view.
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- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-12, 18:57
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
dhw,
2009-07-14, 16:53
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-14, 19:41
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
David Turell,
2009-07-14, 23:25
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
David Turell,
2009-07-15, 02:20
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-15, 04:29
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? - David Turell, 2009-07-15, 19:41
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-15, 04:29
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-15, 04:21
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
David Turell,
2009-07-15, 19:23
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? - xeno6696, 2009-07-15, 23:19
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
David Turell,
2009-07-15, 19:23
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
David Turell,
2009-07-15, 02:20
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
dhw,
2009-07-15, 16:37
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-16, 01:26
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
David Turell,
2009-07-16, 02:59
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? - xeno6696, 2009-07-17, 23:34
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
dhw,
2009-07-17, 11:04
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? - xeno6696, 2009-07-17, 23:05
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
David Turell,
2009-07-16, 02:59
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-17, 23:46
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-18, 19:39
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
David Turell,
2009-07-19, 02:09
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? - xeno6696, 2009-07-23, 00:38
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
David Turell,
2009-07-19, 02:09
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-18, 19:39
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-17, 23:55
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
dhw,
2009-07-19, 13:42
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? - xeno6696, 2009-07-23, 00:37
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-25, 04:54
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
dhw,
2009-07-26, 22:43
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-27, 04:44
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
David Turell,
2009-07-27, 05:20
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-28, 14:56
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
David Turell,
2009-07-28, 16:20
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? - xeno6696, 2009-07-29, 00:20
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
David Turell,
2009-07-28, 16:20
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-28, 14:56
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
dhw,
2009-07-28, 15:33
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-29, 01:24
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
dhw,
2009-07-30, 10:13
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-31, 00:44
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
dhw,
2009-08-04, 11:52
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? - xeno6696, 2009-08-04, 14:54
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
dhw,
2009-08-04, 11:52
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-31, 00:44
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
dhw,
2009-07-30, 10:13
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-29, 01:24
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
David Turell,
2009-07-27, 05:20
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-27, 04:44
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
dhw,
2009-07-26, 22:43
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
dhw,
2009-07-19, 13:42
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-16, 01:26
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
David Turell,
2009-07-14, 23:25
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
xeno6696,
2009-07-14, 19:41
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
John Clinch,
2009-08-07, 12:29
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? - dhw, 2009-08-10, 11:36
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
David Turell,
2010-04-09, 17:08
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? - David Turell, 2011-02-11, 15:00
- Why is a \"designer\" so compelling? -
dhw,
2009-07-14, 16:53