Does evolution have a purpose? (Evolution)

by David Turell , Friday, October 17, 2014, 02:07 (3689 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw: Your assumption about God's intentions has left you in an even worse dilemma than before: you want the IM to be free, so you can explain the bush, and you don't want it to be free because you want humans to be the goal......How can the built-in instructions to produce humans leave the IM free to invent the billions of innovations without which humans could not exist? You are in danger of choking on your cake!-I love my cake. You keep skipping the fact that I describe the IM as 'semi-autonomous. Not free, but working under guidelines, like the auto factory that made your Volkswagen with robots. Only my IM is not robotic but has degrees of freedom to invent as necessary, based on perceived necessities.-
> dhw: My hypothesis suggests that the doggy nose in an animal body and the human brain in an animal body both evolved through the intelligent cooperation of a few million IMs. But you think God must have preprogrammed (built-in instructions) the human brain, and not the doggy nose.-Very likely. The IM knew the doggie nose needed a powerful sniffer for survival, but followed guidelines to produce the human brain.
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> DAVID: We are a different kind. Why would an unorganized chance mechanism like Darwin's theory of evolution do that? With Darwin only chance is available. So you would have to propose humans by chance.
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> dhw: The only chance element here is environmental change. The IM designs. It does not rely on chance.-True.
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> dhw: Why don't all organisms have doggy noses? Every species has to find its niche in the given environment, and to develop a behavioural pattern that will enable it to survive. Then there's probably stasis until a change in the environment causes some to perish, some to adapt, and some to innovate.-By environment you must include climate, asteroids, volcanic eruptions, competition from other species, etc.? Wolves have the same 'nosi'ness since doggies are wolves in breeder's clothing.-> 
> DAVID: I see purpose and design everywhere. Everything looks very directed, in my eyes.[/i]
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> dhw: And to mine, but if my hypothesis of an IM is true, the direction comes from within: every species, including humans, has designed its own unique properties to serve the purpose of survival and/or improvement. ..... you insist on doing so yourself and then you try to adapt life's history to your reading, even though you can see that it just doesn't fit. Eat the cake, dear David!-I can hypothesize my IM any way I wish and enjoy the cake. A semi-autonomous IM with guidelines works just fine for me. You see purpose and design and then just ignore the obvious. We humans shouldn't be here by all odds but we are. Everything screams purpose, just not loud enough for you.