A little acid... is all it takes... (Evolution)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Friday, January 31, 2014, 01:49 (3732 days ago) @ David Turell

Matt: It seems that putting adult human cells... under selective pressure puts them into a state that they can become any other kind of cell. 
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> > This directly undermines the idea that natural selection is incapable of massive, rapid changes in the development of an organism. If, given enough pressure, a bone cell can be coaxed into a neuron, or skin cell, or an eye cell... then it stands to reason that the same plasticity applies to the entire organism.
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> I think this is a misuse of the term natural selection. The environment, not NS, acts on the organism which changes by this mechanism. NOW natural selection steps into determine if the change is sufficient for survival. NS is the end judge of the whole process and can only act on what is presented to it.
> -I think that our understandings of natural selection are different. If you'll entertain me for a moment--evolution is a process. And (I'm getting ready to post a slew of controversial posts) a primary aspect of that process is the organism's response to environmental change. The thing that *makes* natural selection important, is the fact that it replaced the notion that "all things appeared in the forms they are in" with "All things are the way they are because of a stimulus-response interaction with the environment." -Basically, natural selection stops being "Natural Selection" if you attempt to logically separate the environment from the response. So the way I look at it, natural selection is the act of organisms adapting to changing environments. So putting cells in an environment that causes "stress" (or selection pressure) and that environment causes them to revert to a state where they're capable of becoming ANY kind of cell... this is groundbreaking stuff. and this paper describes to me, for the first time--the secret sauce of natural selection. Though, as a hint to my future posts, humanity owes much to natural selection, but the crazy-in-geological-terms speed of our advancement has alot to do with three other kinds of selection: Group selection, Epigenetics, and symbolic.

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