Denis noble debunks neo-Darwinism (Introduction)
> dhw: You have reproduced my comments and virtually ignored my conclusion! Noble debunks random mutations, but he doesn't tell us by what mechanism cells did develop their complexity. I have gone so far as to suggest we shall never know. His lecture focuses on how evolution works, not on how cells, intelligence, consciousness originated. There are issues and issues. Darwin's Origin of Species doesn't deal with the origin of life and cells either, but that doesn't mean that the subject of evolution itself is not a "true issue".-I'm not ignoring your conclusion. It was incomplete. Your current discussion is not. I fully agree we will never have full scientific proof or any other kind of proof about the evolutionary processes. From single cell to here is an amazing journey. But even the single cell has been shown to be a highly complex information-filled factory. Darwin didn't know that. As a result his philosophic musing about evolution, based as they are on his time in knowledge of geology, paleontology, biology, and even history, are not worth much. You have admitted natural selection is a weak arbiter. We are left with a Darwin who championed the idea that some how or other evolution went from cell to us. Most of us have accepted the idea that life, once started, evolved. In that sense and only that sense only we have accepted Darwin. Debate of mechanisms must leave him behind.
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