Trilobite eyes (Introduction)

> Tony: Convergence is even harder to explain in common evolution or your intelligent genome theory. Two independent intelligences arriving to the same precise solution to a given problem without contact between them is extremely unlikely, verging on impossible. There was a theory about that at one point, but I can not remember the name of it. -Simon Conway Morris bases an entire book on convergence to show teleology: "Life's Solution".
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> Tony: I don't. As I keep stating repeatedly, every one of these theories, including mine, requires faith. However, there is no reason that your faith should not be based on sound reason and logic. I labeled it willful disbelief because that is what it is. -Dhw has told us why. To paraphrase him, he has told us he cannot imagine a God as first cause, even though he accepts the idea of a first cause as reasonable. I cannot imagine God either, nor can anyone else, but He is a logical endpoint to reach from all we know.
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> >DHW: Clearly I've missed something here.
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> Tony: Life can not come from non-life without the not insignificant requirement of initial information and energy.-Exactly what was missed.
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David Turell, 
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2013-03-19, 14:12
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Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-19, 15:07
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dhw, 
2013-03-19, 19:52
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Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-22, 10:23
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dhw, 
2013-03-23, 15:29
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David Turell, 
2013-03-23, 17:41
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Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-24, 06:21
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David Turell, 
2013-03-24, 17:41
- Trilobite eyes - Balance_Maintained, 2013-03-24, 19:50
 
 
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David Turell, 
2013-03-24, 17:41
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dhw, 
2013-03-25, 15:25
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David Turell, 
2013-03-25, 16:19
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Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-26, 03:36
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David Turell, 
2013-03-26, 03:54
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Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-26, 04:34
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David Turell, 
2013-03-26, 13:27
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David Turell, 
2013-03-26, 13:27
 
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2013-03-26, 04:34
 
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David Turell, 
2013-03-26, 03:54
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dhw, 
2013-03-27, 14:58
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David Turell, 
2013-03-27, 16:36
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dhw, 
2013-03-28, 17:10
- Trilobite eyes - Balance_Maintained, 2013-03-29, 09:29
 
 
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dhw, 
2013-03-28, 17:10
 
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David Turell, 
2013-03-27, 16:36
 
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Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-26, 03:36
 
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David Turell, 
2013-03-25, 16:19
 
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Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-24, 06:21
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Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-23, 18:42
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dhw, 
2013-03-25, 15:36
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Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-26, 03:21
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dhw, 
2013-03-27, 15:14
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Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-27, 15:44
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dhw, 
2013-03-28, 16:47
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David Turell, 
2013-03-28, 17:22
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dhw, 
2013-03-29, 09:51
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David Turell, 
2013-03-29, 21:44
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David Turell, 
2013-03-29, 21:59
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dhw, 
2013-03-30, 19:37
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David Turell, 
2013-03-30, 21:39
- Trilobite eyes - David Turell, 2013-03-31, 16:13
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dhw, 
2013-03-31, 16:48
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David Turell, 
2013-03-31, 18:37
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dhw, 
2013-04-01, 18:58
- Trilobite eyes - David Turell, 2013-04-01, 20:54
 
 
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dhw, 
2013-04-01, 18:58
 
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David Turell, 
2013-03-31, 18:37
 
 
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David Turell, 
2013-03-30, 21:39
 
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dhw, 
2013-03-30, 19:37
- Trilobite eyes - Balance_Maintained, 2013-03-30, 03:46
- Trilobite eyes - David Turell, 2013-03-30, 14:24
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
David Turell, 
2013-03-29, 21:59
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
David Turell, 
2013-03-29, 21:44
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
dhw, 
2013-03-29, 09:51
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Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-29, 09:11
- Trilobite eyes - David Turell, 2013-03-29, 14:38
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dhw, 
2013-03-30, 19:31
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Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-31, 05:29
- Trilobite eyes:  most complex found - 
David Turell, 
2021-10-04, 15:18
- Trilobite eyes: most complex found - David Turell, 2023-07-12, 15:38
 
 
- Trilobite eyes:  most complex found - 
David Turell, 
2021-10-04, 15:18
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-31, 05:29
 
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
David Turell, 
2013-03-28, 17:22
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
dhw, 
2013-03-28, 16:47
 
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Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-27, 15:44
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
dhw, 
2013-03-27, 15:14
 
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Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-26, 03:21
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
dhw, 
2013-03-25, 15:36
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
David Turell, 
2013-03-23, 17:41
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
dhw, 
2013-03-23, 15:29
 
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Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-22, 10:23
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
dhw, 
2013-03-19, 19:52
- Trilobite eyes - 
David Turell, 
2013-03-20, 04:17
- Trilobite eyes - 
dhw, 
2013-03-20, 18:20
- Trilobite eyes - 
David Turell, 
2013-03-20, 19:25
- Trilobite eyes - 
dhw, 
2013-03-22, 12:34
- Trilobite eyes - David Turell, 2013-03-22, 14:54
 
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
dhw, 
2013-03-22, 12:34
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
David Turell, 
2013-03-20, 19:25
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
dhw, 
2013-03-20, 18:20
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
Balance_Maintained, 
2013-03-19, 15:07
 
- Trilobite eyes - 
dhw, 
2013-03-19, 14:12
