Trilobite eyes (Introduction)
dhw: An essential point of the whole thread on "Intelligence" is the concept of the "intelligent genome", which you have accepted with the proviso...etc. It does away with chance. By rejecting random mutations and gradualism I have divorced myself from adoration of Darwin. But over and over again I have stressed that I accept his theories of common descent, mutation in a different sense from his (i.e. not random) and natural selection.-I sincerely appreciate your growth in recognizing Dawinism for what it is, an early attempt to conceptualize evolution, brilliant for the time, but fading as science expands our knowledge. Much as the ID folks don't like it, I think common descent must be accepted. DNA was there at the beginning, but it appears that the many layered genomic controls must have been there also, which means, to me, that common descent was a controlled event from the beginning, with open-ended experimentation to create the huge forest-like bush we see. Life is extremely inventive in solving problems. It was always meant to be that way. The intelligence of the genome is information built into the genome, and that information must be initially supplied by an intelligent mind. It is the source of that intelligent mind that we debate. We are discussing complex information which involve deep layers of inerlocking commands, feedback controls that make organic molecules act like they have minds of their own. They don't, but they must respond to physical-chemical-elctrical forces that exist to exert that control in very tight limits. It would take several courses in biochemistry to understand to a reasonable degree the depth of this complexity. Life ran on electrical wires from the time of the Cambrian Explosion! When did Ben Franklin fly his kite? -So I apologize for constantly needling you about your amorphous 'intelligent genome concept'. I've been trying to hammer home how brilliant the real information/intelligence is. DNA is a better digital code than anything we have invented with our so-called brilliant human minds. We are competing against a mind that is infinitely better.
Complete thread:
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David Turell,
2013-03-18, 15:06
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dhw,
2013-03-19, 14:12
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-19, 15:07
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dhw,
2013-03-19, 19:52
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-22, 10:23
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dhw,
2013-03-23, 15:29
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-23, 17:41
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-24, 06:21
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-24, 17:41
- Trilobite eyes - Balance_Maintained, 2013-03-24, 19:50
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-24, 17:41
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dhw,
2013-03-25, 15:25
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-25, 16:19
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-26, 03:36
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-26, 03:54
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-26, 04:34
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David Turell,
2013-03-26, 13:27
- Trilobite eyes - Balance_Maintained, 2013-03-26, 14:41
- Trilobite eyes - BBella, 2013-03-26, 20:54
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-26, 13:27
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-26, 04:34
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David Turell,
2013-03-26, 03:54
- Trilobite eyes -
dhw,
2013-03-27, 14:58
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-27, 16:36
- Trilobite eyes -
dhw,
2013-03-28, 17:10
- Trilobite eyes - Balance_Maintained, 2013-03-29, 09:29
- Trilobite eyes -
dhw,
2013-03-28, 17:10
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-27, 16:36
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-26, 03:36
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-25, 16:19
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-24, 06:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-23, 18:42
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dhw,
2013-03-25, 15:36
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-26, 03:21
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dhw,
2013-03-27, 15:14
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-27, 15:44
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dhw,
2013-03-28, 16:47
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-28, 17:22
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dhw,
2013-03-29, 09:51
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-29, 21:44
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David Turell,
2013-03-29, 21:59
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dhw,
2013-03-30, 19:37
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David Turell,
2013-03-30, 21:39
- Trilobite eyes - David Turell, 2013-03-31, 16:13
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dhw,
2013-03-31, 16:48
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David Turell,
2013-03-31, 18:37
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dhw,
2013-04-01, 18:58
- Trilobite eyes - David Turell, 2013-04-01, 20:54
- Trilobite eyes -
dhw,
2013-04-01, 18:58
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-31, 18:37
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-30, 21:39
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dhw,
2013-03-30, 19:37
- Trilobite eyes - Balance_Maintained, 2013-03-30, 03:46
- Trilobite eyes - David Turell, 2013-03-30, 14:24
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-29, 21:59
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-29, 21:44
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dhw,
2013-03-29, 09:51
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-29, 09:11
- Trilobite eyes - David Turell, 2013-03-29, 14:38
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dhw,
2013-03-30, 19:31
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-31, 05:29
- Trilobite eyes: most complex found -
David Turell,
2021-10-04, 15:18
- Trilobite eyes: most complex found - David Turell, 2023-07-12, 15:38
- Trilobite eyes: most complex found -
David Turell,
2021-10-04, 15:18
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-31, 05:29
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-28, 17:22
- Trilobite eyes -
dhw,
2013-03-28, 16:47
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-27, 15:44
- Trilobite eyes -
dhw,
2013-03-27, 15:14
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-26, 03:21
- Trilobite eyes -
dhw,
2013-03-25, 15:36
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-23, 17:41
- Trilobite eyes -
dhw,
2013-03-23, 15:29
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-22, 10:23
- Trilobite eyes -
dhw,
2013-03-19, 19:52
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-20, 04:17
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dhw,
2013-03-20, 18:20
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-20, 19:25
- Trilobite eyes -
dhw,
2013-03-22, 12:34
- Trilobite eyes - David Turell, 2013-03-22, 14:54
- Trilobite eyes -
dhw,
2013-03-22, 12:34
- Trilobite eyes -
David Turell,
2013-03-20, 19:25
- Trilobite eyes -
dhw,
2013-03-20, 18:20
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Balance_Maintained,
2013-03-19, 15:07
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dhw,
2013-03-19, 14:12