A Scientists Approach to Creation (Origins)

by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 20:30 (4111 days ago) @ David Turell

Some of the basic points that I picked up(For the benefit of DHW):-

• Out of 200+ methods of dating, 90% do not agree with extreme old ages.(I am still trying to confirm or deny that)

• Fossils are used to date rock strata, which are in turn used to date fossils. Circular logic.(Confirmed)

• Evolution violates 2nd law of Thermodynamics(confirmed by secular evolutionary scientist.)

• Life requires information, information requires Code, meaning, action, purpose.(For David)

• Lack of transitional fossil evidence to support Evolution.

• Mutations in the genome can only alter or remove information, not add new information. 

• Chance of selection of good mutation essentially zero

• Statistically impossible. Probability of a single protein 1:10^240, of a single cell 1:10^40000(1:10^50 considered impossible[Law of Probability]).

• 10^80, estimated number of atoms in the galaxy. 

• Evolution and Creation are not Theories, they are models, because neither can be tested, neither are falsifiable, and neither can be observed directly.

• The model that incorporates the most data and has the smallest number of unresolved issues is the most likely to be true.[/b]

• Evolution requires life to come from non-life, which has never been observed.

• Evolution requires spontaneous generation of new fully functional organs, bones, tissues, etc, which has never been observed.

• Adaptive mutations exist but are not sufficient to prove evolution because they do not change the species or add new functionality. 

• Law of Biogenesis has never been falsified.

• Everything in the universe is bound by laws, which demand a law giver.

• Goldilocks planet at every level. Even our position within the Milkyway is a Goldilocks zone.

• More than 100 precise universal constants, most of which is changed even a fraction of a percent would destroy life, the universe, and everything.

• If the mass of a proton were increased by just 0.2 %, it would decay into a neutron, a positron and a neutrino. This decay does not occur - if it did, hydrogen could not exist. Hydrogen is the dominant element of the universe. Without it, the universe could not exist

• ...the list goes on and one.. lots of good details, quotes, and references for the curious mind.


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"The central question of the Chicago conference was whether the mechanisms underlying microevolution can be extrapolated to explain the phenomena of macroevolution.  At the risk of doing violence to the positions of some of the people at the meeting, the answer can be given as a clear No." 
Reported by Roger Lewin, "Evolutionary theory under fire," Science, vol. 210 (4472), 21 November 1980, p. 883] -"As we survey the history of life since the inception of multicellular complexity in Ediacaran times, one feature stands out as most puzzling—the lack of clear order and progress through time among marine invertebrate faunas."
[Gould, Stephen Jay, "The Ediacaran Experiment," Natural History, vol. 93 (February 1984), p. 22.] -"...Every paleontologist knows that most new species, genera, and families, and that nearly all categories above the level of family appear in the record suddenly and are not led up to by known, gradual, completely continuous transitional sequences."
[George Gaylord Simpson (evolutionist), The Major Features of Evolution, New York, Columbia University Press, 1953 p. 360.]-"...there are no known violations of the second law of thermodynamics.  Ordinarily the second law is stated for isolated systems, but the second law applies equally well to open systems ... there is somehow associated with the field of far-from equilibrium phenomena the notion that the second law of thermodynamics fails for such systems.  It is important to make sure that this error does not perpetuate itself."
[Dr. John Ross, Harvard scientist (evolutionist), Chemical and Engineering News, vol. 58, July 7, 1980, p. 40]

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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.