Design not divine? (Origins)

by David Turell , Wednesday, September 26, 2012, 21:15 (4228 days ago) @ dhw


> I agree that nothing can come from nothing. How does an intelligent creator self-generate? Your answer is that it doesn't ... because it's the eternal "first cause". How does a universe self-generate (not necessarily ours but whatever preceded ours during the same for ever and ever in which you believe your own first cause has existed)? The answer is that it doesn't ... because it's the eternal "first cause". A consciously creative forever (God) is no more credible than an unconsciously creative forever (the universe). We cannot conceive of either, but many people have faith in one OR the other. -"We cannot conceive" is your view of things. But you agree nothing can come from nothing, then therefore there was always something. Our universe was designed for us, from all evidence. Only intelligence can create design. Therefore, first cause is intelligence. Simple logic.